@futurebird @mina @mattflor @nev @adriano Seriously? I have known math grad students and physics PhDs who refuse to learn LaTeX.
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It takes like 12 min to learn LaTeX IDK what the big deal is. “I need to learn LaTeX” they say. “ok let’s do it right now at the bus stop” I say. Then the excuses start. My students can all use it and I just gave them an example to modify.
@futurebird @degreesOfFreedom @mina @mattflor @nev @adriano the tooling is a pita
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@futurebird @degreesOfFreedom @mina @mattflor @nev @adriano I learned LaTeX in the early 1990s when I was editing scientific manuscripts. At a time when technology was not as present in our lives. It's. Not. That. Hard.
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I will admit it is one of those “12 min to learn, a life time to master’ things — I’ve gotten into coding randomized diagrams with graphs and matching answer keys— the sky’s the limit! but it’s a markup it’s supposed to be pretty easy to follow.
@futurebird @degreesOfFreedom @mina @mattflor @nev @adriano I wrote my dissertation in LaTeX back in 2005 and NOBODY in my program knew what it was or why I was using it (MS Word failed me badly enough to motivate the switch).
In Math, Word® was a forbidden word.
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@mina @mattfossen @futurebird @degreesOfFreedom @adriano why use LaTeX when you can simply use PowerPoint? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNjxe8ShM-8
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I actually tried to learn LaTeX once, but it's like Vim : I got stuck at the step "choose which plugin to use among these fancy ones with weird names who claim to do nearly the same thing but not exactly"...
@lienrag @futurebird a surprisingly trappy trap that one.
@futurebird @degreesOfFreedom @mina @mattflor @nev @adriano I used to use LaTeX directly for things, until I got fed up with it and wrote a simple compiler to transform a sort of bare bones markdown into LaTeX (and later HTML as well). That works for most of my use cases.
@futurebird @degreesOfFreedom @mina @mattflor @nev @adriano It took a few minutes to learn how to format the equations I needed. It took several years for someone to let me know I didn't know how to pronounce it correctly.
@futurebird @degreesOfFreedom @mina @mattflor @nev @adriano Exactly. And that example can encode all the fiddly bits related to the correct presentation of the document. At work, we’ve found that a self hosted instance of Overleaf really helps with getting folks on board.
@futurebird @degreesOfFreedom @mina @mattflor @nev @adriano when I tried to learn LaTeX the first thing I tried to do was recreate the format I’d been using, which meant having headers and footers; trying to find out how to make headers and footers in LaTeX turned up about a dozen options, none of which worked
Not sure how many hours I wasted on that, but it was enough that I haven’t tried again